6/05/2007

Young Liberal Ads on YouTube

Also known as "The Return of the Nefarious Hidden Agenda."

These are so bad. I hate, loathe and despise the Apple commercials enough as it is. Anyone with even a modicum of computer experience knows they are crap. Mac's are only useful for artsies. If you want to do anything useful, like gaming, you need a Windows box WITHOUT Vista. If you want to do anything really useful like programming, then you need a Linux box. Everything you can do with a Mac, Windows and Linux do better.
But back to the ads.
How unoriginal.
I am sure the Young Liberals are congratulating themselves for their brilliance, but really. Haven't you given up on the hidden agenda angle yet? It's so obviously a ploy.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Last time this card carrying member of the CPC, computer programmer and analyst, and Mac user reads this ill informed blog.

Ruth said...

Ill informed because I think Mac's are useless?
MmmHmm.

Anonymous said...

Just so you know, I've left comments all over BT affiliates demanding that Harper drop the phony environmentalism and inform the Canadian electorate about how his adherents view climate science in general, and the IPCC report in particular. I've been assured that we should all relax, and that Harper needs to cater to the enviros so he can get a majority. The same goes for Quebec.

Now, far be it from me to suggest that Harper is being insincere, but it seems that at the very least his most sequacious sycophants themselves openly acknowledge that everything will be different when he gets a majority and finally brings the 'wonderful light of neoconservatism' to the unwashed and ignorant masses.

That sounds like an agenda to me; although not very hidden any more, it does come across as somewhat devious and dishonest.

Anonymous said...

The whole "Mac's are better/PC's are better" is pretty childish. They both have their individual strengths.

Jeff Davidson said...

macs have their obvious strengths. to suggest otherwise seems foolish. to dismiss anyone who uses a mac as an artsy is simply childish.however, i've noticed that you and many other conservatives mock what they can't understand. par for the course on this blog.

many of the so-called christians who exist in bloggingtoryland seem pretty darn hateful. must be hard to live that way.

Surecure said...

I'll probably still read this blog, but I agree with anonymous. You're ill-informed. But, having drank from the Microshaft Kool-Aid, I don't expect you to know that.

Being equally versed in DOS, all versions of Windows (except the hopeless OSX wannabe Vista), Unix and the Mac OS... I still pick Mac every time.

ALW said...

Oh c'mon. The ads are funny!

Too bad 99% of people don't surf the net for political ads though.

Anonymous said...

Mac's are useless. Unfortunatley some people are falling for the tv ad.

Ruth said...

To all the people who think I'm ill-informed and/or childish because I think Mac's are useless, have ANY of you read the early days of this blog and do ANY of you have even the tiniest clue as to what I used to do before taking on the role of stay at home mom?
Because, if you did, there is absolutely no way you could ever write I was ill-informed.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Personally, I hate the Mac-PC ads on TV. On the other hand, I thought the Young Liberals' ads were quite funny - if you try to look at it from a non-partisan POV. Which isn't easy.

Surecure said...

Looking back to the early days of your blog it would appear you did something that required a lot of attention to Windows based machines... still wondering how that might cancel out any suggestion you are ill-informed about the overwhelming superiority of both the hardware and OS capabilities of the Mac.

But, back to the other topic... I personally think that these ads (while manipulative and wrong in content) are much more inspired than the present Conservative party ads. If you want to make an impression you have to be both entertaining and informative. The Conservatives were neither entertaining (boring script) nor informative (they don't tell us anything we don't know and what they do say doesn't jump out at you).

While we can criticize these Young Lieberal ads, you can't do so without saying that -- in comparison -- with their no budget they are still better than what the CPC is getting after spending $1mil. Can't help but feel the money I donate to the CPC is being wasted if what they produce is a joke compared to what some Lieberals can make for free.

Ruth said...

...overwhelming superiority of both the hardware and OS capabilities of the Mac.
Hah hah hah.
Had no idea you were such a comedian. What can I say except that I never met a Mac I didn't hate? It doesn't seem to have occurred to you that I have in fact used a Mac on more than one occasion and hated the experience.
...you did something that required a lot of attention to Windows based machines...
Something. How descriptive. And that this "something" involved copious amounts of time with Windows machines therefore makes me a Microsoft stooge, is that it?
Obviously you missed:
This
This
This
This

But as you said, back to the ads. That the Conservative ads are boring and provide no new information is in no way proof that the Liberal ads are better. Both suck.

Jay Parlar said...

Anyone with even a modicum of computer experience knows they are crap.

Sorry, I don't just have a computer related degree, but I actually *worked* with computers, writing software. The three best programmers at my company all use Macs. I guess though that my 24 years of using computers (from DOS to Windows to Linux to OS X) doesn't count as a modicum of computer experience.

And I guess, for example, the Python and Ruby communities, many of which use the Mac, don't know anything about computers.

Sorry, you lose.

Mac's are only useful for artsies.

I'm doing my PhD in Software Engineering. MANY members of the CAS department at McMaster uses Macs. Including people doing useful things, like MRI software, control software, etc. etc.

Sorry, you lose.

If you want to do anything useful, like gaming, you need a Windows box

Gaming is useful? Either way, you can dual boot a Mac machine into Windows, and play your games. Or, if like most people, you just play WoW, you can do that just fine in OS X.

Sorry, you lose.

If you want to do anything really useful like programming, then you need a Linux box.

So the Python community is doing nothing useful? The Ruby community? The Rails community? A huge percentage of the scientific computing community? All the programmers that go to computer conferences, where the percentage of Mac laptops always seems to be about 50%? Half of new hires at O'Reilly? Half of the people at Google? Hell, even some of the developers for OLPC are using OS X with the OLPC software running under VMWare.

Sorry, you lose.

Everything you can do with a Mac, Windows and Linux do better.

That's a mighty big statement you're making there. And like your others, incorrect. Windows and Linux can't run OS X. Windows and OS X can't do Final Cut (which granted is a *somewhat* artsie thing, but just barely). Windows and Linux can't run the iLife suite, with which NORMAL people can do USEFUL things with their media. Windows has viruses and spyware. Linux is too hard for 95% of people to configure (although thankfully getting easier all the time).

Sorry, you lose.

I love Linux, it's fantastic for the things it's good at (for instance, my MythTV machine), but OS X is a better programming environment, and a better environment for most end users.

Sorry, you lose.

Ruth said...

I'm doing my PhD in Software Engineering. MANY members of the CAS department at McMaster uses Macs.
Those Macs are all a result of a grant. They weren't bought because they were better. I was around when they were brought in. As I recall, they were initially not wanted and were the subject of much derision.
And Jay, not to insult the other half of our department, but you were one of the ONLY students in software engineering that I ever TA'd/taught that could program. There was you and one other guy not in your year. So flagging the "I'm a Software Eng PhD from Mac" is not the way to go, because most Software Engineers can't program their way out of a paper bag. More education does not fix this either. Just look at our profs.
Repeat it to yourself often: you are the exception, not the rule.
Windows has viruses and spyware.
That Macs are less hacked is not a tribute to their being more secure. Mac's take up a much smaller share of the overall computer market. If you want to do anything nasty and hit the greatest number of machines, then you program something nasty for Windows, not Macs. They have less holes THAT HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED... it's not that they have less holes overall.
I love Linux, it's fantastic for the things it's good at... but OS X is a better programming environment, and a better environment for most end users.
Ack!
How can you even say this?
It's so not true. It's a crappy programming environment and doesn't have anywhere hear the power of a Linux box or Unix workstation. In fact, the only reason Mac's can be used for programming at all is because they had to use a Unix-based back end.
I will give you that Ruby and Python are useful and are also used a lot by a subset of Mac users. One only need look as far as the Multimedia Department and their Text Analysis project, which I did some work on.
And yes, I consider gaming to be useful ;-)

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