3/31/2006

Pamela Anderson and
the Prime Minister

Lat night my husband told me that apparently, Ms. Pamela Anderson wants a meeting with the Prime Minister. She wishes to discuss the seal hunt.
I looked it up this morning, and sure enough Ms. Anderson is hoping for an audience with the Prime Minister on Sunday, after she has finished hosting the Juno awards.
Lucky for us, Harper is in Mexico, looking after such minor details as the softwood lumber issue. (As an aside, the article mentions they went to Chichen Itza. I've been there. It's cool.)
I really he hope he doesn't meet with Anderson. Who does she think she is? You don't just get a private audience with the Prime Minister because you are a celebrity. If he has to have an audience with her, then he has to have an audience with any other yahoo that walks in.
Tool!
And by the way, why are you stuck on the seal hunt? Is it because they are cute? Why not wail in torment of the daily "slaughter" of the helpless cockroach, termite or earthworm? Did you know earthworms are sacrificed by the millions so that red necks everywhere can go fishing? And speaking of fishing, how do you think the fish feel, with a hook barbarously driven through their lips? Indeed, every summer they are dragged from their homes in lakes and rivers by just such a hook, so mercilessly placed, and then thrown onto frying pans! Such an end! Oh the poor perch!
Whatever.

6 comments:

Trevor said...

It appears as though you are under the impression that Pam is only involved in this one issue and therefore is a hypocrit. That couldn't be farther from the truth pamela is involved in every issue regarding the treatment of animals. She is heavily involved in trying to raise attention to the sad fact that the way we treat chickens (as an example, but you could substitute any other farm raised animal here) in north america is awful and encouraging Canada and the USA (or individual companies like KFC) to at least approach EU standards. And yes she is opposed to fishing, rodeos etc.

You might disagree with her positions but she is hardly a hypocrit stuck on the seal hunt.

Some might say that a hypocrit would be someone who "loves" animals, yet wears leather and fur and eats meat. That is about 96% of the population.

Ruth said...

I think she's way over stepping her bounds, end of discussion. If she wants to make a difference, then she can come back to Canada, vote in elections and get a bill in via her MP just like everyone else. She's not some queen that she can get an audience.
Don't defend her actions. Her behaviour is an affront to the democratic process.
you could substitute any other farm raised animal here
Have you ever been to a farm?

Trevor said...

I didn't say that pamela should get an audience with the PM (she shouldn't). Nor did I say that I agree with the way the way that she goes about increasing exposure for the causes that she is involved with (I am indifferent). I simply said that her actions are consistent with her words regarding the treatment of all animals.

The part of your post about her being "stuck on the seal hunt" - "how do you think fish feel" implies that Pam cares about certain animals (cute ones) and doesn't care about others. Certainly this is a major problem regarding most seal hunt protesters (and "Save the Whales" protesters). Even high profile ones. (Although Paul Watson, Paul McCartney, Brigitte Bardot and Pam are all vegans as far as I know.)

It will be the people of Canada who make a decision on the seal hunt, not pams. She doesn't have the right to dictate policy, but she does have the right express her views (like everyone else).

Trevor said...

>>Have you ever been on a farm?<<

I grew up on a dairy farm. We also raised about 150 chickens a year (for meat, not eggs) and raised some beef cattle (about 50). My grand parents were farmers. My brother is a dairy farmer. All of my uncles and aunts (except one) are farmers (most of my cousins too). One Uncle used to own and operate a small local slaughterhouse, where I occasionally worked when things got busy. When I finished high school, I fulfilled my childhood dream of owning a farm when I bought into the farms that my parents owned. After 3 years I felt dead inside. I was so thoroughly disgusted with the way that farms have changed from the time of my youth, grown in size and turned the animals from well cared for animals to production units (a concern that started when I was in high school, but I dismissed it by saying “ours is better”). We milked about 40 cows when I was young, constant expansion in order for the farm to survive in increasingly competitive markets have pushed that up to four times the original number (most pig farms and chicken farms, both broiler and egg also bare little resemblance to the farms I knew and loved when I was young).

One day, when I was 21 having spent my whole living on a farm and thinking about farming, I snapped, told my parents that I was leaving, that I was going to apply to University for the fall. I also told them that I would never again eat meat (yes, that includes fish and poultry), dairy or eggs as long as I lived. This was a bit of shock (probably more to myself, then to them) as I probably hadn’t consumed a vegetable or fruit in the past year (unless by accident) and had never heard the term vegan or knew that such people existed. The bigger shock for my parents and relatives was that I actually found the change incredibly easy. And more than 8 years later I am still a strict vegan and couldn’t be happier.

(I don’t protest about things like the seal hunt, I don’t berate people while they eat and I don’t have a “meat is murder” bumper sticker on my car. But there is no doubt that the unnecessary brutality that we display towards animals sickens me.)

I am sorry for the lenghty answer to the to the question, but yes I have been on a farm and I know more about current farming practices than I care to know (It seems that almost all the vegetarians and vegans I know either grew up on farms or spent a lot of time on farms as children). I have a lot of faith in people, I think we should all demand that animals are treated with more respect than they are right now.

Ruth said...

It seems that almost all the vegetarians and vegans I know either grew up on farms or spent a lot of time on farms as children

Then you have a unique group of friends who are not typical vegans. Most vegetarians and vegans are not farmers, nor have they ever even seen a farm. PETA people are overwhelmingly lefty, rich, spoiled snobs who haven't spent enough time in the real world.
Please note that not all vegans or vegetarians are the PETA types. I used to be a vegetarian b/c I have problems digesting meat. The only reason I'm not now is b/c I am breast feeding and it's pretty for me to get enough protein for my baby without adding meat to my diet.
But that is off topic.
You missed the point of my post altogether. You started off with the assumption that I think Ms. Anderson is a hypocrite. She has worn enough leather in her lifetime for me to say that yeah, she is. Also, like most celebrities, she's picked this one issue. Like I said, why not cockroaches? Her argument is solely that seals are animals. We shouldn't hurt animals. Therefore we shouldn't hurt seals. What about the hundreds of other animals on the plaet that she isn't protesting to save?
What's more, she has chosen not to use the proper, democratic channels. She's trying to use "star power" to force the government to do something that the people who elected them in the first place may not necessarily want. It's totally inappropriate. If she wants Canadian Law changed so that the seal hunt is banned, than she can friggin' well contact her MP and try and get a private members bill put through.
Oh! But wait! She can't contact her MP because she doesn't even LIVE HERE!! She lives in the US. She didn't even vote in our election!!
As far as I am concerned, she can crawl back under the tanning bed she came from. I don't have the time of day for her and her PETA friends.

Trevor said...

>>>>You missed the point of my post altogether. You started off with the assumption that I think Ms. Anderson is a hypocrite. She has worn enough leather in her lifetime for me to say that yeah, she is. Also, like most celebrities, she's picked this one issue. Like I said, why not cockroaches? Her argument is solely that seals are animals. We shouldn't hurt animals. Therefore we shouldn't hurt seals. What about the hundreds of other animals on the plaet that she isn't protesting to save? <<<<<

This will be my last post, cause it far enough off topic and I have lots to do this weekend.
As far as I can find Pamela has not worn real leather since Barbed Wire in 1996. I have never watched her in a movie or tv show so I have no idea, not that I would be able to pick out leather from pleather on a tv anyways. She is heavily invested in fake leathers so I would imagine that she would prefer to wear clothing that promotes her own investments. If it is the case that she has not worn real leather in 10 years then I think that qualifies as a good run.

Also, as I have said before, she is involved in far more than just this animal issue. But, I love it when people say that it has to be all or nothing. Protest for every animal or protest none. If you can't be perfect and completely change the world for every single animal, then don't bother trying to improve the fate of any of them. If you can't live exactly every word in the bible then I guess you shouldn't live any. If you can't care for every dog that is going to be put to death then don't care for any. If they had an annual slaughter where a group of people went around clubbing cockroaches I am sure that Pamela would not approve. My personal goal as a vegan (I am sure that Pamela's goal and every other vegan's goal is different) is to inflict the least harm. There is certainly a difference in between accidently stepping on an ant and clubbing a seal or causing the death of an animal because you enjoy the taste of it. Similarly, I have to choose whether or not to get a flu shot. On the one hand I could refuse to get the shot as it is developed in eggs and potentially increase the risk of causing the transmission of the flu to someone who is at high risk of dying from the flu. The risk of the flu is minimal to myself. I have a healthy immune system and have never came down with flu symptoms, but it is still quite possible that in my life I have transmitted the flu virus from one person to another without experiencing symptoms myself. On the other hand I could get the flu shot and reduce that risk of injury to others, while at the same time contacting companies who develop the flu vaccine and encouraging them to develop a flu shot that does not require the use of eggs (which would also help those who are allergic to eggs and therefore can't get a flu shot) or other animal products for development. Which one causes less harm? Would a vegan be a hypocrite for getting a flu shot?

As for my group of friends and co-workers not being typical vegetarians and vegans. That is probably true (although I doubt there is such as thing as a typical vegetarian/vegan). As for Peta, I don't know much about them.

Peace

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